<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div><br></div><div>Sevgili Didem, neresinden bakarsaniz bakin, ''sessiz cogunlugun uyanisi'' saptamasinin cagristirdigi tek kelimeyle aptallik.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Sevgilerimle.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>ZE</div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;" data-mce-style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><div><br></div><br><hr id="zwchr"><div><b>Kimden: </b>"Didem Gözüpek" <dgozupek@gmail.com><br><b>Kime: </b>"Zafer ERCAN" <Zafer.Ercan@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr><br><b>Kk: </b>"tmd" <tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr>, "Osman Gürsoy" <Osman.Gursoy@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr><br><b>Gönderilenler: </b>23 Aralık Cuma 2016 17:46:48<br><b>Konu: </b>[Tmd-uye: 1416] Re: [Turkmath:1736] Re: Re: Max Planck ve Faşizm<br></div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Sevgili herkes,<br><div>Herkesi tanımıyorum ama umarım "sevgili" dememe izin vardır. Tam bu listeden çıkmak üzereydim ki çok şükür sessiz çoğunluk bu saçmalığa tepki vermeye başladı. Bu email grubunda olduğunu bildiğim pek çok insandan "kim bu email grubunu rezil eden 2-3 kişi?" yorumlarını zaten sık sık duyuyordum. Bir mühendis olarak Türkiye'deki mühendislerin ve mühendislik eğitiminin kalitesi konusunda bolca endişem vardı. Bu email grubuna katılıp çoğu tartışmanın seviyesizliğini (kusura bakmayın, ben de daha hafif bir kelime bulamıyorum) gördükten sonra her ne kadar rahatsız edici olanların bir azınlık olduğunu tahmin etsem de "matematik bizden çok daha kötü durumdaymış demek ki" diye düşünüyordum açıkçası. Neyse ki sessiz çoğunluk ses çıkardı.</div><br><div>Tabii ki sokaktaki herhangi bir insanın kalitesindeki yazılarınızı grupla ya da konuyla ilgisiz de olsa devamlı göndermek için Send tuşuna basma özgürlüğüne sahipsiniz. Ancak bu tavrınızın etkisinin sadece gruptan ayrılmaları artıracağının ve isimlerinizin yarattığı algının kalitesini iyice düşüreceğinin farkında olun yeter.</div><br><div>Ayrıca sevgili Birkan! (Birkan çok eski ve çok sevdiğim bir arkadaşım olduğu için umarım "sevgili" dememe izin vardır) Normalde hiç bulaşmayacağın bu tartışmalara ucundan kıyısından da olsa bir şekilde dahil olduğuna göre demek ki bu aralar gerçekten canının çok sıkkın olduğunu düşünüyordum. Özür dileme olgunluğundaki tek kişi olarak bu görüşümü kanıtladın. Keşke herkes senin gibi olabilse.</div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">=======================================================<br>Assoc.Prof. Didem Gözüpek<br>Gebze Technical University, Department of Computer Engineering <br>Office: 237<br>41400 Gebze, Kocaeli, TURKEY<br>Phone: +90 262 605 2217 Fax: +90 262 605 2205<br>Website: <a href="http://bilmuh.gyte.edu.tr/~dgozupek/" target="_blank">http://bilmuh.gyte.edu.tr/~dgozupek/</a> <br>========================================================</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">23 Aralık 2016 18:22 tarihinde Zafer ERCAN <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Zafer.Ercan@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">Zafer.Ercan@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>></span> yazdı:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;" data-mce-style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><br><div>Siz asil seviyesizligi ekteki karikaturden okuyun. </div><br><div>ZE</div><br><hr id="m_8673633657328096986zwchr"><div><b>Kimden: </b>"Osman Gürsoy" <<a href="mailto:Osman.Gursoy@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">Osman.Gursoy@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>><br><b>Kime: </b>"yilmaz akyildiz" <<a href="mailto:yilmaz.akyildiz@gmail.com" target="_blank">yilmaz.akyildiz@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Kk: </b>"tmd" <<a href="mailto:tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>>, "Osman Gürsoy" <<a href="mailto:Osman.Gursoy@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">Osman.Gursoy@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>><br><b>Gönderilenler: </b>23 Aralık Cuma 2016 17:13:32<br><b>Konu: </b>[Tmd-uye: 1414] Re: [Turkmath:1736] Re: Re: Max Planck ve Faşizm<br></div><div><div class="h5"><br><div><div dir="ltr">Yılmaz Hoca,<div>Hemen üzerinize alınmasanız. Bu saydıklarınızın yani math-bilim-ve ilgili nin dışındakilerin kastedildiği çok açık.Lütfen bir kez daha okur musunuz.</div><div>O.G</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">23 Aralık 2016 17:59 tarihinde yilmaz akyildiz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yilmaz.akyildiz@gmail.com" target="_blank">yilmaz.akyildiz@gmail.com</a>></span> yazdı:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: 'comic sans ms',sans-serif; font-size: small;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'comic sans ms',sans-serif; font-size: small;">çok "primitif" bir mesaj yazmışsınız Osman bey.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: 'comic sans ms',sans-serif; font-size: small;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'comic sans ms',sans-serif; font-size: small;">"<span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" data-mce-style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">bilim ve ilgili konular-hikayeler konuşulsa</span><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" data-mce-style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> " demişsiniz</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: 'comic sans ms',sans-serif; font-size: small;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'comic sans ms',sans-serif; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" data-mce-style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">time serisi, artan azalan fonksiyon, dolar Pi sayısını da geçti,</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: 'comic sans ms',sans-serif; font-size: small;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'comic sans ms',sans-serif; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" data-mce-style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">gibi cümleler sizce matematikle ilgili değilmi?</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: 'comic sans ms',sans-serif; font-size: small;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'comic sans ms',sans-serif; font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" data-mce-style="font-size: 16px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-12-23 17:00 GMT+03:00 Osman Gürsoy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Osman.Gursoy@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">Osman.Gursoy@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr">Değerli Arkadaşlar,<div>Herkes bu sayfayı temiz tutmak zorundadır.Kimse zannetmesin ki (polemiklere girilmese de) bu dayatma ego ve ideoloji kokan primitif sataşmalardan rahatsız olmuyoruz. </div><div>Bu sayfada en iyisi matematik ,bilim ve ilgili konular-hikayeler konuşulsa daha güzel olmaz mı.</div><div>Herkese iyi yıllar diliyorum</div><div>Sevgi ve saygılarımla.</div><div>O.Gürsoy</div><br><br><br><br><br><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">23 Aralık 2016 17:27 tarihinde Tınaz Ekim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tinaz.ekim@boun.edu.tr" target="_blank">tinaz.ekim@boun.edu.tr</a>></span> yazdı:<div><div class="m_8673633657328096986m_-1967907563013522862h5"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="m_8673633657328096986m_-1967907563013522862m_-2004440879965166336m_-7333893692695038508WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_8673633657328096986_m_-1967907563013522862_m_-2004440879965166336_m_-7333893692695038508__MailEndCompose"></a><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Herkese iyi gunler,<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Ben de Atillayi destekliyorum ve ayni gorusu yazmak isteyip de kendini tutan bircok tanidigimi destekliyorum. </span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Sevgili Zafer, Mehmet, Birkan ve Yilmaz hocalar, konu listede matematik disi konularin yazilmasi degil. Konu, kimseyi ilgilendirmeyen, eglendirmeyen ve kimsenin anlamadigi yazismalarinizi bir genel gorgu kurali olarak ozelden yapmanizin cok daha uygun olacagi. Boylece liste uyelerini listeden sogutmamis olursunuz. 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color: #1f497d;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Tinaz</span><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #7f7f7f;" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; 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font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> Tmd-uye [mailto:<a href="mailto:tmd-uye-bounces@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">tmd-uye-bounces@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mehmet Can<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 23, 2016 3:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> Atilla Yılmaz; <a href="mailto:tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Tmd-uye: 1406] Re: [Turkmath:1736] Re: Re: Max Planck ve Faşizm<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p><div id="m_8673633657328096986m_-1967907563013522862m_-2004440879965166336m_-7333893692695038508divtagdefaultwrapper"><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">Sayin Atilla Yilmaz<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">Bu listede matematik disi konular ilk defa yayinlanmiyor.<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">Iyi de yapiliyor.<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p><i><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">Burada matematikten baska bir sey konusulmaz</span></i><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">kuralini koymak sizce kimin yetkisindedir?<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; 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color: #1f497d;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; color: #1f497d;">Mehmet Can</span><span style="color: black;" data-mce-style="color: black;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;" data-mce-style="background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; color: #1f497d;"> _____________________________________</span><span style="color: black;" data-mce-style="color: black;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 3.0pt; background: white;" data-mce-style="margin-top: 3.0pt; background: white;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; color: #1f497d;">Prof. Dr. Mehmet Can</span><span style="color: black;" data-mce-style="color: black;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;" data-mce-style="background: white;"><b><i><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; color: #1f497d;">The University Information Technology Center</span></i></b><span style="color: black;" data-mce-style="color: black;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;" data-mce-style="background: white;"><b><i><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; color: #1f497d;"> </span></i></b><span style="color: black;" data-mce-style="color: black;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;" data-mce-style="background: white;"><b><i><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; 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color: #1f497d;">Phone: <a href="tel:+387%2033%20957-150" target="_blank">+387 33 957 150</a> ; Fax: <a href="tel:+387%2033%20957-105" target="_blank">+387 33 957 105</a></span></i><span style="color: black;" data-mce-style="color: black;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;" data-mce-style="background: white;"><i><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-style="font-size: 10.0pt; color: #1f497d;"><a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a> <a href="http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can" target="_blank">ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can</a></span></i><span style="color: black;" data-mce-style="color: black;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></span></p></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: center;" data-mce-style="text-align: center;"><hr size="3" width="98%" align="center"></div><div id="m_8673633657328096986m_-1967907563013522862m_-2004440879965166336m_-7333893692695038508divRplyFwdMsg"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;" data-mce-style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"> Tmd-uye <<a href="mailto:tmd-uye-bounces@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">tmd-uye-bounces@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>> on behalf of Atilla Yılmaz <<a href="mailto:atillayilmaz@ku.edu.tr" target="_blank">atillayilmaz@ku.edu.tr</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 23, 2016 11:30:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Tmd-uye: 1404] Re: [Turkmath:1736] Re: Re: Max Planck ve Faşizm</span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">Sevgili Zafer, Mehmet, Birkan ve Yilmaz hocalar,<br><br>Tabiri caiz ise bu "matematik dışı" mesajlari Turkmath ve TMD-uye listelerinin en fazla bir tanesine gondermenizi oneriyorum. Ilgilenenler o listeden takip ederler. (Baska bir alternatif de Twitter.) Anlayisiniz icin tesekkurler.<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">Herkese iyi seneler,<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">Atilla Yilmaz<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">2016-12-22 17:32 GMT+03:00 Ulug Capar <<a href="mailto:Ulug.Capar@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">Ulug.Capar@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>>:<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">Saygıdeğer Liste Üyeleri,<br><br><br>Eğer sildiklerim olmadıysa şu an mail kutumda "Max Planck ve Faşizm"<br>konulu tam 51 yazı sayıyorum.<br><br>Turkmath' in "aftermath" ından endişe duymağa başladım !<br>Kuyuya atılan bir taşı çıkarmak için bu kadar yazışma gerekli mi<br>idi ?!<br><br>Yeterlik önergesi veriyorum !<br><br><br>Saygılarımla,<br><br>Uluğ ÇAPAR<br><br><br><br><br>On Thu 22 Dec 2016 17:17:21 +03, yilmaz akyildiz wrote:<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">hakkını vermemiz lazım Can Mehmet in<br>gerçi şu an "çocuk" la neyi tarif ettiğini bilmesek de<br>bazen akıllı sözler de edebiliyor.<br>benim bir arkadaşım vardı<br>şimdi rahmetli<br>"sandalyeye oturduğunda<br>ayağı yere değiyorsa..." der keser atardı.<br>umnarım Mehmet Can ın çocuk tarifi daha gerçekçi dir.<br>yoksa yine anlaşamayacağız kendisiyle.<br>dolar / TL olayını nasıl izah edecek bu kuvvetli ve geleceği zengin<br>ekonomiz ile merak ediyorum.<br>yoksa o da mi "dolardır, dolar boşalır" diyecek.<br><br>2016-12-22 17:10 GMT+03:00 Mehmet Can <<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a>>:<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">Sayin Ercan<br><br><br>Yasi ne olursa olsun, cocuksa, evliligi caiz degildir.<br><br><br><br>Mehmet Can<br><br> _____________________________________<br><br>Prof. Dr. Mehmet Can<br><br>*The University Information Technology Center*<br><br><br><br>*INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY OF SARAJEVO *<br><br>*Hrasnicka cesta 15, 71000 Sarajevo, B&H*<br><br>*Phone: <a href="tel:%2B387%2033%20957%20150" target="_blank">+387 33 957 150</a> ; Fax: <a href="tel:%2B387%2033%20957%20105" target="_blank">+387 33 957 105</a>*<br><br>*<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a> <<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a>> <a href="http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can" target="_blank">ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can</a><br><<a href="http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can" target="_blank">http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can</a>>*<br>------------------------------<br>*From:* Zafer ERCAN <<a href="mailto:zercan@ibu.edu.tr" target="_blank">zercan@ibu.edu.tr</a>><br>*Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2016 3:05:59 PM<br>*To:* Mehmet Can<br>*Cc:* Mehmet Can; yilmaz akyildiz; tmd-uye; turkmath; Tuna ALTINEL<br><br>*Subject:* Re: [Tmd-uye: 1387] Re: [Turkmath:1736] Re: Re: Max Planck ve<br>Faşizm<br><br><br>Devam edelim Mehmet Can:<br><br>Sizin anladiginiz anlamda büyüyen Turkiye'nin cocuklarinin cocuk yasta<br>(ornegin 10 yasinda) evlenebilirligi caiz midir?<br><br>ZE<br><br>------------------------------<br>*Kimden: *"Mehmet Can" <<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a>><br>*Kime: *"Zafer ERCAN" <<a href="mailto:zercan@ibu.edu.tr" target="_blank">zercan@ibu.edu.tr</a>>, "Mehmet Can" <<br><a href="mailto:Mehmet.Can@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">Mehmet.Can@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>><br>*Kk: *"yilmaz akyildiz" <<a href="mailto:yilmaz.akyildiz@gmail.com" target="_blank">yilmaz.akyildiz@gmail.com</a>>, "tmd-uye" <<br><a href="mailto:tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>>, "turkmath" <<a href="mailto:turkmath@listweb.bilkent.edu" target="_blank">turkmath@listweb.bilkent.edu</a>.<br>tr>, "Tuna ALTINEL" <<a href="mailto:altinel@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">altinel@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>><br>*Gönderilenler: *22 Aralık Perşembe 2016 15:56:48<br>*Konu: *Re: [Tmd-uye: 1387] Re: [Turkmath:1736] Re: Re: Max Planck ve<br>Faşizm<br><br>Sayin Ercan<br><br><br>O kadinlar sokakta dans etme fantazisini size birakirsa.<br><br><br><br><br>Mehmet Can<br><br> _____________________________________<br><br>Prof. Dr. Mehmet Can<br><br>*The University Information Technology Center*<br><br><br><br>*INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY OF SARAJEVO *<br><br>*Hrasnicka cesta 15, 71000 Sarajevo, B&H*<br><br>*Phone: <a href="tel:%2B387%2033%20957%20150" target="_blank">+387 33 957 150</a> ; Fax: <a href="tel:%2B387%2033%20957%20105" target="_blank">+387 33 957 105</a>*<br><br><br>*<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a> <<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a>> <a href="http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can" target="_blank">ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can</a><br><<a href="http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can" target="_blank">http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can</a>>*<br>------------------------------<br>*From:* Zafer ERCAN <<a href="mailto:zercan@ibu.edu.tr" target="_blank">zercan@ibu.edu.tr</a>><br>*Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2016 12:30:36 PM<br>*To:* Mehmet Can<br>*Cc:* yilmaz akyildiz; tmd-uye; turkmath; Tuna ALTINEL<br>*Subject:* Re: [Tmd-uye: 1387] Re: [Turkmath:1736] Re: Re: Max Planck ve<br>Faşizm<br><br>Sayın Can,<br><br>Sizin anladiginiz anlamda büyüyen Turkiye'nin kadinlari sokaklarda<br>rahatlikla dans edebilir mi?<br><br>ZE<br><br>------------------------------<br>*Kimden: *"Mehmet Can" <<a href="mailto:Mehmet.Can@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">Mehmet.Can@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>><br>*Kime: *"yilmaz akyildiz" <<a href="mailto:yilmaz.akyildiz@gmail.com" target="_blank">yilmaz.akyildiz@gmail.com</a>><br>*Kk: *"tmd-uye" <<a href="mailto:tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>>, "turkmath" <<br><a href="mailto:turkmath@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">turkmath@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>>, "Mehmet Can" <<br><a href="mailto:Mehmet.Can@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">Mehmet.Can@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>>, "Tuna ALTINEL" <<br><a href="mailto:altinel@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">altinel@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>><br>*Gönderilenler: *22 Aralık Perşembe 2016 12:57:48<br>*Konu: *[Tmd-uye: 1387] Re: [Turkmath:1736] Re: Re: Max Planck ve Faşizm<br><br><br>Sayin Akyildiz<br><br><br>Buyuk adamin her bir seyi buyuk olur.<br><br><br>Regards,<br><br><br><br>Mehmet Can<br><br> _____________________________________<br><br>Prof. Dr. Mehmet Can<br><br>*The University Information Technology Center*<br><br><br><br>*INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY OF SARAJEVO *<br><br>*Hrasnicka cesta 15, 71000 Sarajevo, B&H*<br><br>*Phone: <a href="tel:%2B387%2033%20957%20150" target="_blank">+387 33 957 150</a> ; Fax: <a href="tel:%2B387%2033%20957%20105" target="_blank">+387 33 957 105</a>*<br><br><br>*<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a> <<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a>> <a href="http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can" target="_blank">ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can</a><br><<a href="http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can" target="_blank">http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can</a>>*<br>------------------------------<br>*From:* yilmaz akyildiz <<a href="mailto:yilmaz.akyildiz@gmail.com" target="_blank">yilmaz.akyildiz@gmail.com</a>><br>*Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2016 11:53:07 AM<br>*To:* Mehmet Can<br>*Cc:* H. Birkan YILMAZ; Mehmet Can; Tuna ALTINEL; tmd-uye; turkmath<br>*Subject:* Re: [Tmd-uye: 1373] Re: [Turkmath:1736] Re: Re: Max Planck ve<br>Faşizm<br><br>Mehmet Can dedi ki:<br>"<br><br>Allah yardimcimiz olsun Birkan Bey. Turkiye insaninin cabalariyla ve<br>sabriyla Turkiyemiz buyuyor. Mehmet Can"<br><br>benim gördüğüm kadarı ile Türkiyemizde büyüyenler:<br>cari açık<br>cahillik<br>eğitimsizlik<br>alavere dalavere<br>yurt dışına kaçmak isteyenlerin sayısı<br>betonlaşma<br>hırsızlık<br>yozlaşma<br>umutsuzluk<br><br>benden şimdilik bu kadar<br>bu liste daha çok uzar...<br><br>2016-12-22 13:18 GMT+03:00 Mehmet Can <<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a>>:<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><br>Allah yardimcimiz olsun Birkan Bey.<br><br><br>Turkiye insaninin cabalariyla ve sabriyla Turkiyemiz buyuyor.<br><br><br><br><br>Mehmet Can<br><br> _____________________________________<br><br>Prof. Dr. Mehmet Can<br><br>*The University Information Technology Center*<br><br><br><br>*INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY OF SARAJEVO *<br><br>*Hrasnicka cesta 15, 71000 Sarajevo, B&H*<br><br>*Phone: <a href="tel:%2B387%2033%20957%20150" target="_blank">+387 33 957 150</a> ; Fax: <a href="tel:%2B387%2033%20957%20105" target="_blank">+387 33 957 105</a>*<br><br><br>*<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a> <<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a>> <a href="http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can" target="_blank">ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can</a><br><<a href="http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can" target="_blank">http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can</a>>*<br>------------------------------<br>*From:* H. Birkan YILMAZ <<a href="mailto:fermat4214@gmail.com" target="_blank">fermat4214@gmail.com</a>><br>*Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2016 9:07:35 AM<br>*To:* Mehmet Can<br>*Cc:* yilmaz akyildiz; Mehmet Can; Tuna ALTINEL; tmd-uye; turkmath<br>*Subject:* Re: [Tmd-uye: 1373] Re: [Turkmath:1736] Re: Re: Max Planck ve <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><br>Faşizm<br><br>Sayin Mehmet Can Hocam,<br><br>Maalesef pek degismedi fikrim,<br><br>Artik doneyim ulkemde arastirma/bilim yapayim dedigim hergun baska bir<br>vahim olay yasanmasi sanki bana geri donme diyor.<br><br>Kolay Gelsin<br><br>===============================<br>H. Birkan YILMAZ, PhD<br>Researcher<br>Yonsei University, Korea<br>Yonsei Institute of Convergence Technology,<br>School of Integrated Technology,<br><a href="http://www.cmpe.boun.edu.tr/~yilmaz" target="_blank">http://www.cmpe.boun.edu.tr/~yilmaz</a><br>===============================<br>===============================<br>Verba volant, scripta manent<br>===============================<br><br>2016-12-22 16:44 GMT+09:00 Mehmet Can <<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a>>:<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p></div></div><blockquote style="border: none; border-left: solid #cccccc 1.0pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" data-mce-style="border: none; border-left: solid #cccccc 1.0pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">Sayin Birkan Yilmaz<br><br><br>Ben iletinizi dun aldim.<br><br>Sorun serverlardan kaynaklanabilir.<br><br>Tarihine bakmamisim.<br><br><br>Dusuncem, Turkiye'yi tasvir edisinizle alakaliydi.<br><br><br>O zamandan bu gune dusunceniz degistiyse, bilmek isterim.<br><br><br>Regards,<br><br><br><br>Mehmet Can<br><br> _____________________________________<br><br>Prof. Dr. Mehmet Can<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal">*The University Information Technology Center*<br><br><br><br>*INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY OF SARAJEVO *<br><br>*Hrasnicka cesta 15, 71000 Sarajevo, B&H*<br><br>*Phone: <a href="tel:%2B387%2033%20957%20150" target="_blank">+387 33 957 150</a> ; Fax: <a href="tel:%2B387%2033%20957%20105" target="_blank">+387 33 957 105</a>*<br><br><br>*<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a> <<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a>> <a href="http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can" target="_blank">ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can</a><br><<a href="http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can" target="_blank">http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can</a>>*<br>------------------------------<br>*From:* H. Birkan YILMAZ <<a href="mailto:fermat4214@gmail.com" target="_blank">fermat4214@gmail.com</a>><br>*Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2016 7:53:12 AM<br>*To:* Mehmet Can<br>*Cc:* yilmaz akyildiz; Mehmet Can; Tuna ALTINEL; tmd-uye; turkmath<br><br>*Subject:* Re: [Tmd-uye: 1373] Re: [Turkmath:1736] Re: Re: Max Planck <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><br>ve Faşizm<br><br>Sayin Can,<br><br>Elbette Katilmama hakkiniz baki,<br><br>Yalniz 1aydan fazla zaman gecmis galiba o e-postayi yollamamin uzerinden<br>:) (review expired)<br>Keske hizli degerlendirme olsaydi da beynimizde geriye sarma islemiyle<br>konu neydi acaba diye kendimizi yormasaydik<br><br>Mevzu galiba 676 Nolu KHK idi, bunun cok iyi bir KHK oldugunu mu<br>dusunuyorsunuz? Bunu mu anlamaliyiz?<br><br>kolay gelsin<br><br>===============================<br>H. Birkan YILMAZ, PhD<br>Researcher<br>Yonsei University, Korea<br>Yonsei Institute of Convergence Technology,<br>School of Integrated Technology,<br><a href="http://www.cmpe.boun.edu.tr/~yilmaz" target="_blank">http://www.cmpe.boun.edu.tr/~yilmaz</a><br>===============================<br>===============================<br>Verba volant, scripta manent<br>===============================<br><br>2016-12-22 2:37 GMT+09:00 Mehmet Can <<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a>>:<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p></div></div><blockquote style="border: none; border-left: solid #cccccc 1.0pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" data-mce-style="border: none; border-left: solid #cccccc 1.0pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><br>Sayin Yilmaz<br><br><br>Benim mektubumun muhatabi sayin H. Birkan YILMAZ idi.<br><br><br>Soyle bir ileti yazmisti:<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">*From: Turkmath <<a href="mailto:turkmath-bounces@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">turkmath-bounces@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a><br><<a href="mailto:turkmath-bounces@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">turkmath-bounces@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>>> on behalf of H. Birkan YILMAZ<br><<a href="mailto:fermat4214@gmail.com" target="_blank">fermat4214@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:fermat4214@gmail.com" target="_blank">fermat4214@gmail.com</a>>> Sent: Thursday, November 17,<br>2016 9:26:46 AM To: Tuna ALTINEL Cc: tmd-uye; turkmath<br>Subject: [Turkmath:1736] Re: [Tmd-uye: 1339] Re: Max Planck ve Faşizm*<br><br><br>*Katiliyorum*<br><br>*Ulke freni bosalmis bir sekilde ucurumdan asagi yuvarlanmak uzere<br>paldir kuldur ilerliyor ve bu vatana en buyuk borcumuz yapilan yanlislari<br>hatalari soylemetir. Yonetenleri uzmeyelim diye hatalari gormemek veya<br>gorup de ses cikarmamak en buyuk hatadir.*<br><br>*Elestrilerimizi uygun bir sekilde dile getirmemiz bu grubun da boynuna<br>borctur. Hayir elestirecek birsey yok diyecekler varsa lutfen sessiz<br>kalmasinlar fikirlerini duymak isterim (her seferinde bunu yazmam<br>gerekmesin lutfen), ozellikle de universite rektor atama khk si hakkinda.*<br><br>*Kolay gelsin*<br><br><br><br>Yine de ilginize tesekkurler.<br><br><br>Mehmet Can<br><br> _____________________________________<br><br>Prof. Dr. Mehmet Can<br><br>*The University Information Technology Center*<br><br><br><br>*INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY OF SARAJEVO *<br><br>*Hrasnicka cesta 15, 71000 Sarajevo, B&H*<br><br>*Phone: <a href="tel:%2B387%2033%20957%20150" target="_blank">+387 33 957 150</a> ; Fax: <a href="tel:%2B387%2033%20957%20105" target="_blank">+387 33 957 105</a>*<br><br><br>*<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a> <<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a>> <a href="http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can" target="_blank">ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can</a><br><<a href="http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can" target="_blank">http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can</a>>*<br>------------------------------<br>*From:* yilmaz akyildiz <<a href="mailto:yilmaz.akyildiz@gmail.com" target="_blank">yilmaz.akyildiz@gmail.com</a>><br>*Sent:* Wednesday, December 21, 2016 6:31:40 PM<br>*To:* Mehmet Can<br>*Cc:* H. Birkan YILMAZ; Tuna ALTINEL; tmd-uye; turkmath<br>*Subject:* Re: [Tmd-uye: 1373] Re: [Turkmath:1736] Re: Re: Max Planck<br>ve Faşizm<br><br>sayın Memet Can<br>siz beni zafer ercan la karıştırdınız.<br>ben size "sayın can" diye bir mesaj atmadım.<br>birincisi ben ne anlarım politik süreçden.<br>ikincisi ben kim zafer ercan kim?<br>ZE bu karıştırmayı kendisine yapılmış bir alçalma hatta hakaret olarak<br>yorumlarsa (ki hakkı dır) benim bunda ne günahım var?<br>y.a.<br><br>2016-12-21 19:43 GMT+03:00 Mehmet Can <Mehmet.Can@listweb.bilkent.<br><a href="http://edu.tr" target="_blank">edu.tr</a>>:<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br>Sayin Yilmaz<br><br><br>*Ulke freni bosalmis bir sekilde ucurumdan asagi yuvarlanmak uzere<br>paldir kuldur ilerliyor*<br><br><br>degerlendirmenize katilmiyorum.<br><br><br>Siz politik surecleri dogru analiz edemediginizden, oyle bir kaniya<br>kapiliyorsunuz.<br><br><br><br>Mehmet Can<br><br> _____________________________________<br><br>Prof. Dr. Mehmet Can<br><br>*The University Information Technology Center*<br><br><br><br>*INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITY OF SARAJEVO *<br><br>*Hrasnicka cesta 15, 71000 Sarajevo, B&H*<br><br>*Phone: <a href="tel:%2B387%2033%20957%20150" target="_blank">+387 33 957 150</a> ; Fax: <a href="tel:%2B387%2033%20957%20105" target="_blank">+387 33 957 105</a>*<br><br><br>*<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a> <<a href="mailto:mcan@ius.edu.ba" target="_blank">mcan@ius.edu.ba</a>> <a href="http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can" target="_blank">ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can</a><br><<a href="http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can" target="_blank">http://ius.edu.ba/mehmet-can</a>>*<br>------------------------------<br>*From:* Turkmath <<a href="mailto:turkmath-bounces@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">turkmath-bounces@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>> on behalf<br>of H. Birkan YILMAZ <<a href="mailto:fermat4214@gmail.com" target="_blank">fermat4214@gmail.com</a>><br>*Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2016 9:26:46 AM<br>*To:* Tuna ALTINEL<br>*Cc:* tmd-uye; turkmath<br>*Subject:* [Turkmath:1736] Re: [Tmd-uye: 1339] Re: Max Planck ve <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><br>Faşizm<br><br><br>Katiliyorum<br><br>Ulke freni bosalmis bir sekilde ucurumdan asagi yuvarlanmak uzere<br>paldir kuldur ilerliyor ve bu vatana en buyuk borcumuz yapilan yanlislari<br>hatalari soylemetir. Yonetenleri uzmeyelim diye hatalari gormemek veya<br>gorup de ses cikarmamak en buyuk hatadir.<br><br>Elestrilerimizi uygun bir sekilde dile getirmemiz bu grubun da boynuna<br>borctur. Hayir elestirecek birsey yok diyecekler varsa lutfen sessiz<br>kalmasinlar fikirlerini duymak isterim (her seferinde bunu yazmam<br>gerekmesin lutfen), ozellikle de universite rektor atama khk si hakkinda.<br><br>Kolay gelsin<br><br>On Nov 17, 2016 4:49 PM, "Tuna ALTINEL" <<a href="mailto:altinel@listweb.bilkent.edu" target="_blank">altinel@listweb.bilkent.edu</a>.<br>tr> wrote:<br><br><br>Sayın Liste Üyeleri,<br><br>Zafer Ercan'ın bu güzel hatırlatmasına ben de birkaç gün önce<br>gönderdiğim mesajı hatırlatarak eşlik etmek istiyorum.<br><br>Saygılar,<br><br>Tuna Altınel<br><br>--------<br><br>Sayın Liste Üyeleri,<br><br>Bundan birkaç gün önce Ali Nesin'in, siyasi iktidar tarafından<br>Boğaziçi Üniversitesi rektörlük seçimlerine karşı<br>verdiği özlü tepkiyi bizlerin de TMD olarak üstlenmemizi önermiştim.<br>Sonunda bu yönde bir başka tepki gelmesi<br>beni sevindirdi.<br><br>Daha ne kadar bekleyeceğiz? En nitelikli üniversiteler sarsılsın diye<br>antidemokratik, antiakademik müdahalelerin<br>ardı arkası kesilmezken, Türkiye'nin düşünen, sorgulayan, seçen,<br>seçilen gençlerinin yetiştiği liseler paramparça<br>edilirken daha ne kadar susacağız? Biat varsa matematik yok! Ben<br>etliye sütlüye karışmadan ispatlarımı yaparım,<br>diye hayal kuranlar 20. yüzyılın meşhur diktatörlüklerini<br>hatırlasınlar. Ve oralardan kaçan akademisyenler arasında<br>matematikçilerin de olduğunu. Ve aramızdan bazılarının inatla<br>vurguladıkları, son yıllarda ivme kazanan Türkiye<br>araştırma sistemindeki sakatlıkları düşünsünler.<br><br>Ben de üyesi olmaktan gurur duyduğum TMD'nin üniversitelerin<br>özerkliğini öldüren son siyasi manevralar<br>karşısında sağlam, amasız fakatsız ses çıkarmasını istiyorum. Varsın<br>kapımıza mührü assınlar. Yırtmak ödevimiz olsun!<br><br>Saygılar,<br><br>Tuna Altınel<br><br><br><br>Le 17.11.2016 à 08:21, Zafer ERCAN a écrit :<br><br>Korkun diye yazmıyorum, cesaretli olun diye paylaşıyorum.<br><br>Üniversitelerin (varsa) kiminle uzlaşmaya çalıştığını bilmemesi bir<br>felaketle sonuçlanabilir.<span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">*Max Planck örneği: "Hepimiz Planck'a bakıyor, açılışta ne yapacağını<br>görmek istiyorduk. Çünkü o sıralarda bu tür açılışlara 'Heil Hitler!' ile<br>başlamak resmi bir tutum haline *<br>*getirilmişti. Elini yarım yukarı kaldırdı ve sonra indirdi. Bunu<br>ikinci bir kez daha yaptı. Sonra, nihayet, eli tamamen kalktı ve 'Heil<br>Hitler!' dediği duyuldu."*<br><br>*Ender Helvacıoğlu'nun bir yazısı:<br> <a href="http://www.abcgazetesi.com/planck-trajedisi-7438yy.htm" target="_blank">http://www.abcgazetesi.com/planck-trajedisi-7438yy.htm</a><br><<a href="http://www.abcgazetesi.com/planck-trajedisi-7438yy.htm" target="_blank">http://www.abcgazetesi.com/planck-trajedisi-7438yy.htm</a>>*<br><br>*ZE*<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tmd-uye mailing listTmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.trhttp://<a href="http://yunus.listweb.bilkent.edu.tr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tmd-uye" target="_blank">yunus.listweb.bilkent.edu.tr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tmd-uye</a><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tmd-uye mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">Tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a><br><a href="http://yunus.listweb.bilkent.edu.tr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tmd-uye" target="_blank">http://yunus.listweb.bilkent.edu.tr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tmd-uye</a><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tmd-uye mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">Tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a><br><a href="http://yunus.listweb.bilkent.edu.tr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tmd-uye" target="_blank">http://yunus.listweb.bilkent.edu.tr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tmd-uye</a><br><br><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tmd-uye mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">Tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a><br><a href="http://yunus.listweb.bilkent.edu.tr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tmd-uye" target="_blank">http://yunus.listweb.bilkent.edu.tr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tmd-uye</a><br><br><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tmd-uye mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">Tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a><br><a href="http://yunus.listweb.bilkent.edu.tr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tmd-uye" target="_blank">http://yunus.listweb.bilkent.edu.tr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tmd-uye</a><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span> <span style="text-decoration: underline;" data-mce-style="text-decoration: underline;"></span></p></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: center;" data-mce-style="text-align: center;"><hr size="1" width="100%" noshade="noshade" style="color: #a0a0a0;" align="center" data-mce-style="color: #a0a0a0;"></div><p class="MsoNormal">Bu iletide virüs bulunamadı.<br>AVG tarafından kontrol edildi - 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