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      Kıvanç'ın önerisini destekliyorum. Oğuz Akbilgiç, "korku" başlıklı
      dizideki mesajını şu cümlelerle bitirmiş:<br>
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      "Dernegimizin siyaset disinda kalma cabasini anliyorum, oyle de
      olmali. Ancak, hukuksuzluga karsi durusunu ifade etmek siyaset
      degildir. Sira baskalarinda iken sesimiz cikmadi, bari sira bize
      gelmisken soyleyecek sozumuz olsun. "<br>
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      Bu yerinde tesbitler bir önceki mesajıma koymayı düşünüp sonradan
      çıkardığım, son yıllarda artan bir sıklıkla<br>
      tekrarlanan bir sözü yeniden aklıma getirdi: Susma, sustukça sıra
      sana da gelecek. <br>
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      Demokratik, güçler ayrılığına saygı duyulan, adil bir ülkede
      yaşamayı istemek siyaset değildir. Barış, adalet, demokrasi<br>
      konusunda kendi fikirlerini ifade etmek siyaset değildir. Her
      yurttaşın hakkıdır. Bu hakkı savunmak da her yurttaşın ödevidir. <br>
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      Saygılar,<br>
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      Tuna Altınel<br>
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      Le 16.11.2018 à 16:15, Zafer ERCAN a écrit :<br>
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        <div>Sessiz kalmanın inşa ettiği şeyin ürünüdür, bal gibi
          tutuklanmalar!<br>
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        <div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"Ergun Yalcin"
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:yalcine@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr"><yalcine@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr></a><br>
          <b>To: </b>"SEFA FEZA Arslan"
          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sefa.feza.arslan@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr"><sefa.feza.arslan@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr></a><br>
          <b>Cc: </b>"tmd" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr"><tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr></a>,
          "turkmath" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:turkmath@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr"><turkmath@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr></a>, "Kıvanç
          Ersoy" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ersoykivanc@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr"><ersoykivanc@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr></a>, "Tuna
          ALTINEL" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:altinel@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr"><altinel@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr></a><br>
          <b>Sent: </b>Friday, November 16, 2018 6:10:08 PM<br>
          <b>Subject: </b>[Tmd-uye: 2283] Re:[Turkmath:3386] Re:  Re:
          Büyük gözaltı<br>
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          Betül Tanbay için kaygılıyız. Umarım en kısa zamanda
          bırakılır. 
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          <div class="">Eyleme piyanist çağırmak gibi suçlamalarla biri
            tutuklanmamalı. Medya üzerinden gündem oluşturmak </div>
          <div class="">da suç değildir. Biber gazının yasaklanması için
            çalışmalar yapmak da en doğal haktır. Herhangi bir şeyin </div>
          <div class="">yasaklanması için çalışma yapabilirsiniz. Bu suç
            değildir.  </div>
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                <div class="">Ergün Yalçın</div>
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                      <div class="">On 16 Nov 2018, at 17:00, SEFA FEZA
                        Arslan <<a
                          href="mailto:sefa.feza.arslan@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr"
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                        wrote:</div>
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                        <div dir="auto" class="">Betül hocaların
                          gözaltına alınması ile ilgili yayınlanan vahim
                          basın bilgi notunda "Şiddetsiz eylem"  bile
                          suç gibi gösterilmeye çalışılıyor. Bu hukuğu
                          ayaklar altına almaktır. Avrupa Matematik
                          Derneği Başkan yardımcısı olan Betül Tanbay'a
                          yönelik bu haksız gözaltı, hem matematik ve
                          bilim dünyasına, hem de üniversiteye yönelik
                          bir saldırıdır. Bu hukuksuzluğun en kısa
                          zamanda sona ermesini dilerim. </div>
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                          <div dir="ltr" class="">16 Kas 2018 Cum 14:28
                            tarihinde Kıvanç Ersoy <<a
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                            <div dir="auto" class="">TMD üyeleri ve
                              matematikçiler olarak Betül hocaya sahip
                              çıktığımızı ifade eden, derhal serbest
                              bırakılmalarını talep eden bir metin
                              yayınlamalıyız.</div>
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                              <div dir="ltr" class="">16 Kas 2018 Cum
                                12:01 tarihinde Tuna ALTINEL <<a
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                                  target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
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                                şunu yazdı:<br class="">
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                                Duymuşsunuzdur. Ama bir de benden duyun.
                                TMD eski başkanı Betül Tanbay <br
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