<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Zafer ERCAN <<a href="mailto:zercan@ibu.edu.tr" target="_blank">zercan@ibu.edu.tr</a>>, 22 May 2020 Cum, 23:52 tarihinde şunu yazdı:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div>Sayın Akyıldız, </div><div><br></div><div>Nesin sabiti üzerinde çalışırken ortaya çıkacak anahtar kelimeler neler olabilir?</div></div></blockquote><div> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">ali</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div><br></div><hr id="m_2990207188837683484gmail-m_-4502667002267444628zwchr"><div><b>From: </b>"yilmaz akyildiz" <<a href="mailto:yilmaz.akyildiz@gmail.com" target="_blank">yilmaz.akyildiz@gmail.com</a>><br><b>To: </b>"Mustafa Polat" <<a href="mailto:Mustafa.Polat@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">Mustafa.Polat@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>"Zafer ERCAN" <<a href="mailto:Zafer.Ercan@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">Zafer.Ercan@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>>, "tmd" <<a href="mailto:tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>>, "turkmath" <<a href="mailto:turkmath@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank">turkmath@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, May 22, 2020 11:48:53 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Tmd-uye: 2827] Re: [Turkmath:4475] Yerli ve milli sabit: Nesin sabiti<br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">nesin sabitinin rasyonel olduğu bariz dir!</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">sanı (conjecture): nesin sabiti = 1.<br></div></div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Mustafa Polat <<a href="mailto:Mustafa.Polat@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mustafa.Polat@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>>, 22 May 2020 Cum, 23:45 tarihinde şunu yazdı:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Bu bayağı Heisenberg sabiti imiş. </div><br><div><div dir="ltr">On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 11:24 PM Zafer ERCAN <<a href="mailto:Zafer.Ercan@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Zafer.Ercan@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br><div>Ali Nesin'in  <span style="color:rgb(28,30,33);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none">'' </span><span style="color:rgb(28,30,33);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none">x, elalemin apış arasına giren çıkanla ilgilenme oranı olsun. </span><span style="color:rgb(28,30,33);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none">y, beynine giren çıkanla ilgilenme oranı olsun.</span><br style="color:rgb(28,30,33);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="color:rgb(28,30,33);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none">Bu durumda, xy çarpımı bir sabittir.''  </span><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none">teoreminde yer alan bu sabitin (bu sabite Nesin sabiti diyorum) pi ve e sabitleri kadar önemlidir.</span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><br></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none">- Nesin sabiti nasıl bir sabittir? rasyonel, irrasyonel, transcendental?</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><br></span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none">- Nesin sabitinin sıfır olması üzerinden  toplumun yapısı yorumlanabilir mi?</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><br></span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none">- Nesin sabiti hayvanlar için genellenebilir mi?</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><br></span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none">- Nesin sabiti bireylere genellenebilir mi? Yapılacak bir genelleme sonucu olarak Ali Nesin'in Nesin sabitinin sıfır olacağını tahmin ediyorum.</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><br></span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none">Bu soruları yabana atmayın, Hilbert'in 19.yüzyılın başında sorduğu soru listesi kadar kıymetlidir.</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><br></span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none">ZE</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><br></span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none"> </span></span><br></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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