<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Sayın Akyıldız, </div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Nesin sabiti üzerinde çalışırken ortaya çıkacak anahtar kelimeler neler olabilir?</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>ZE</div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"yilmaz akyildiz" <yilmaz.akyildiz@gmail.com><br><b>To: </b>"Mustafa Polat" <Mustafa.Polat@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr><br><b>Cc: </b>"Zafer ERCAN" <Zafer.Ercan@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr>, "tmd" <tmd-uye@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr>, "turkmath" <turkmath@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, May 22, 2020 11:48:53 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Tmd-uye: 2827] Re: [Turkmath:4475] Yerli ve milli sabit: Nesin sabiti<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;font-size:small">nesin sabitinin rasyonel olduğu bariz dir!</div><div style="font-family:'verdana' , sans-serif;font-size:small">sanı (conjecture): nesin sabiti = 1.<br></div></div><br><div class="elided-text"><div dir="ltr">Mustafa Polat <<a href="mailto:Mustafa.Polat@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">Mustafa.Polat@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>>, 22 May 2020 Cum, 23:45 tarihinde şunu yazdı:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Bu bayağı Heisenberg sabiti imiş. </div><br><div class="elided-text"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 11:24 PM Zafer ERCAN <<a href="mailto:Zafer.Ercan@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">Zafer.Ercan@listweb.bilkent.edu.tr</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb( 204 , 204 , 204 );padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb( 0 , 0 , 0 )"><br><div>Ali Nesin'in <span style="color:rgb( 28 , 30 , 33 );font-family:'helvetica' , 'arial' , sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none">'' </span><span style="color:rgb( 28 , 30 , 33 );font-family:'helvetica' , 'arial' , sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none">x, elalemin apış arasına giren çıkanla ilgilenme oranı olsun. </span><span style="color:rgb( 28 , 30 , 33 );font-family:'helvetica' , 'arial' , sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none">y, beynine giren çıkanla ilgilenme oranı olsun.</span><br style="color:rgb( 28 , 30 , 33 );font-family:'helvetica' , 'arial' , sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 )"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="color:rgb( 28 , 30 , 33 );font-family:'helvetica' , 'arial' , sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none">Bu durumda, xy çarpımı bir sabittir.'' </span><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none">teoreminde yer alan bu sabitin (bu sabite Nesin sabiti diyorum) pi ve e sabitleri kadar önemlidir.</span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><br></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none">- Nesin sabiti nasıl bir sabittir? rasyonel, irrasyonel, transcendental?</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><br></span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none">- Nesin sabitinin sıfır olması üzerinden toplumun yapısı yorumlanabilir mi?</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><br></span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none">- Nesin sabiti hayvanlar için genellenebilir mi?</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><br></span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none">- Nesin sabiti bireylere genellenebilir mi? Yapılacak bir genelleme sonucu olarak Ali Nesin'in Nesin sabitinin sıfır olacağını tahmin ediyorum.</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><br></span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none">Bu soruları yabana atmayın, Hilbert'in 19.yüzyılın başında sorduğu soru listesi kadar kıymetlidir.</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><br></span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none">ZE</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><br></span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"><span style="font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );float:none"> </span></span><br></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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